I've been a WeatherTech fan for over a decade, running their mats on everything my wife and I have driven but after seeing the photos of the seemingly gorgeous (yet rugged) TuxMats I was thrilled to give them a shot. I have a love/hate relationship with WeatherTech. I love the mats, so easy to pull and pressure wash but they cost a lot. Anyhow, so I ordered TuxMats and anxiously awaited them.
Upon unboxing I noticed what appears to be either extremely large thumb or toe prints embedded in them. I was so shocked that I roared laughing at how ironic it is that they protect every single instance of their logo with temporary film as to not allow 1 spec of dust to fall on them nor scratch to blemish their pristine finish yet here we have embedded beastly toe (or large thumb) prints. My mind then started racing wondering if it was indeed a toe print. I see no row of prints like a foot but perhaps it was a socked person whose big toe was worn out? Or maybe just a giant thumb but why not any other fingers, why just a giant thumb all over? Does some prankster have a giant thumb or toe stamp? So who knows. Anyhow, imagining the scenario of how this may have happened quickly diminished the luster of the unboxing.
I then noticed this oddly placed plastic clip. I thought that it snuck out of the clip bag and somehow made its way onto the edge (see pic) so imagine my surprise when I removed it to find a sloppy stitch finish. I mean, why not just fold it over and hit it with some old school grandma double-stitching or something, that zig-zag stuff that could probably hold wings onto an airplane? This, to me, plays out like:
OCD Q/C Person: Hey, this is somewhat unsightly. We should probably clean up this stitching. I mean, the word "Tux" is in our name after all.
No F's Given Person: We can cover it somehow... Wait a second, we have this box of clips here, let me see if one of these fits. Look at that, IT FITS and nobody will care! :: taps index finger on temple and winks ::
OCD Q/C Person: Are you sure? It's absolutely janky.
No F's Given Person: Ship em'.
So. The upsides are that they truly fit great and cover way more than the best weathertech has to offer (digital fit line). A LOT of time & thought was put into the design I'm sure. One thing I didn't realize until I had them in my hands was unlike normal mats, these can't be simply pulled and pressure washed and vinyl treated to new condition. The bottom layer is porous and would take forever to dry and likely get damaged. Due to their incredible fit and coverage, removing them for cleaning and drying would add easily 45 mins to any routine so its looking like a bowl with mild soapy warm water each time for these.
Would I buy them again? No, I wouldn't.
I did contact them and specifically asked that they credit me 50% of the purchase price or send me another set and that I did not want to go through the RMA process (for this price and a name like "TuxMat" you get 1 chance). They would not do either but will happily send me a return shipping label and upon receipt of the originals, ship another set out. Kind of lame.
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Months ago there was a discussion about Tuxmat/Phantom car liner mats, tuxmat.ca thread , and whether anyone had any reviews of them. There were none at the time. Couldn't decide whether to get these or the Weathertechs or Findways.So I finally decided to get the Tuxmat/Phantom for the wife's 2017 Civic after a lot of humming and hawing. Picked them up and installed this week. According to their website, the mats are made of 3 layers:Top Layer - Synthetic leather that is durable and water proofMiddle Layer - Comfort and StructureBottom Layer - Sound Proofing, anti-skid protective clothSince the company is fairly new () it's hard to say how durable this product is, so I guess I'm the RFD guinea pig. One downside to the product is that it only comes with a 1yr guarantee, so I will only find out the durability and quality after this coming winter. Crossing my fingers these mats survive many winters!!!! The product finish is actually quite nice. The synthetic leather gives the product a classy rich finish and makes the car look luxurious, even for a Civic. The mat feels soft on the feet, and it fits like a glove. What I like so far about the product is it's coverage. The mat covers almost every inch of carpet and goes all the way up to the plastic paneling (though I can't say if it's the same for all makes/models). This is great because the Findway and Weathertech only seem to have a small lip, leaving much of the carpet exposed to winter salt. I also like the fact that the rear seat also covers the carpet that is up against the seats. I used the provided mat clips however it isn't necessary as the liners are an exact fit and therefore don't shift (the mats can't use the car's clip system as there would be a hole in the mat).They're expensive at $230 versus the $100 Findway, but cheaper than the $270 Weathertech. Hopefully this was a smart investment.Under pedalsUnder the driver side seat with extra coverageRear liner against seat backThe other negative I found so far is that when I checked for my Tucson there was no cutout for the fuel door release lever whereas Weathertech and Findway do. Tuxmat says they cover it to complete the full water protection, which is true I suppose. They say I can still access the lever by lifting the mat. I have no idea if that would prove to be a pain in the arse as I haven't decided whether to buy that set or not. As for possible limited coverage, as I mentioned above, the Tucson one looks like it does not cover all the carpet around the gas pedal (because of it's Tucson's gas pedal floor mount).Hi everyone, I know everyone has been anxiously awaiting the rest of my RFD review of these mats. Well, to quickly summarize: they've held up amazing and I can see these things lasting many many years based upon how they look and feel after one year, especially after winter.My video should explain everything I hope, but for those who prefer to read:Clean up was rather simple (though removing them posed a bit of a challenge as to not spill dirt onto the carpet). Any dirt that fell into the car was easily vacuumed up. Upon removing them I used a dry brush to remove excess dirt and stuck on grime. I then sprayed them down with a hose, and then again used a dry brush to remove any remaining dirt/grime. Then I just used a towel to dry up the water and poof, I was done. There was NO water or salt penetration to the car's carpet. Everything was nice and clean, and no moisture or dampness in the car. Tuxmat said I could use mild soap and water if needed but found it wasn't necessary.Been through two winters now and no issues what's so ever. Again, clean up was easy. This time the wife did it without my assistance. No wear or tear detected.As a side note, they saved the carpet when the wife accidentally spilled her entire milk bubble tea on it last summer. I can't imagine the stink that would have made if the mat wasn't there.One member posted a few months ago that they experienced some wear & tear on the left side of the driver's mat where the clutch would be. This is unfortunate as the rubber logo designed for a shoe heel doesn't extend that far over. I suppose it's a minor design flaw for those who drive manual as those with automatic wouldn't have this issue. The member however did post that Tuxmat did replace the mat free-of-charge as a goodwill gesture, which is nice. Maybe they'll take this into consideration.There seems to have been a development at Costco no longer carrying Tuxmat products. Costco now seems to be carrying the same exact product as Tuxmat but under the name Phantom. Everything appears to be the same, even having the heel pad with the Tuxmat logo.Anyways, if you have no brand loyalty, then I'd suggest just ordering from Costco.ca if you're a Costco member & if they have your Make & Model since nothing beats the Costco return policy.Members have updated and stated that the Phantom mats have the same shipping address as Tuxmat, and another member had spoken to Tuxmat who apparently admitted it's the same mat. Very confusing.I'm not as pleased with them as much as when I bought the 1st generation mats for my wife's 2017 Honda CivicAlthough I really didn't need to use the clips for the driver's mat because it is snug, I'm still one of those types that gets anal if things are not secured properly, especially the driver's mat. I couldn't use the standard clips as the mat sides were a lot higher than the Tucson's plastic paneling. That's a good thing for splash but bad as the mats can't be secured. I ended up using the Velcro clips () that were provided but found that the adhesive backing didn't stick very well to the plastic paneling. It will hold for now but I will likely pick up industrial Velcro tape from Home Depot to make sure it really sticks.It's a shame that the front of the mat doesn't go around the back of the pedal () but I guess that would pose a safety issue. You can see where the past salt build up looks less than appealing, but I suppose that would happen regardless of the brand of mat used.I am not a fan of this retention hole () in the 2nd Generation mats. Why did they put a hole in the middle of the mat? They could have used the original manufacturers retention hooks. Furthermore, the retention hook is nearly impossible to install. You have this little nail that you're supposed to puncture into the carpet of the car. Well, guess what:(1) I couldn't punch it through because the carpet was too thick(2) I can't line it up properly with the retention hole in the mat because the nail has to be inserted on an angle (nail is longer than the clip). I did end up using a thumbnail to line up where the hole should be made but sticking it dead center in the retention hole of the mat, but of course, couldn't puncture the carpet (see #1)So, I didn't end up installing the retention hook, hence the reason why I was relying on the retention clips to work.Also a shame that these mats don't cover the back side as they did with the Civic (). I see for the 2nd Generation mats they made a cut out for the fuel door release lever, and that's probably the reason why.I placed the passenger mat in without any retention because honestly who cares. It fits like a glove and I'm not worried about shifting.The rear seat mat is a bit of a disappointment for the Tucson. I'm not sure if this 2nd Generation mat is different than the 1st Generation for this model, but the backing doesn't go all the way up and tuck under the seat like the Civic. It still goes up high but it would have been nice if the had provided the extra material to tuck. I did end up using a few clips to makes sure the mats of this size stayed snug to the vehicle floor and to the back of the seat.Overall though, still satisfied with the purchase. I just hope they take in consideration of feedback for a 3rd Generation of mats.
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